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<content:encoded><![CDATA[The Mathematician-Betting forums are private forums for members of the Mathematician-Betting.co.uk service.<BR><BR>As a non member you will see nothing unfortunately.<BR><BR>Inside however is a busy active forum where members discuss racing and sports betting, providing both daily thoughts and advice and long term betting strategy thinking.<BR><BR>It is a great place to ask questions and to raise your general knowledge of betting.<BR><BR>The forums are a complimentary add on for memebrs of our Private Service.<BR><BR>Read more about the Private Members Service here<BR><a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.mathematician-betting.co.uk/betting-advice.asp">Horse Racing Advice</a><BR><BR>To join our private service now under our No Quibble Refund Guarantee click here ..<BR><a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.mathematician-betting.co.uk/join.asp">Join</a><BR><BR>Below is a copy of an historic message as a typical sample of what members receive in their email from us each betting day.<BR>As you can see research effort and reasoning is expansive and far beyong a simple name of horse only tip.<BR><BR>========================================================================<BR><BR>Mathematician 2467<BR>Saturday November 5th<BR><BR>1 Bet today<BR>0 Negative<BR>9 Previews<BR><BR>9 previews<BR>7 are in Class 2 or higher<BR>The message has graduated to classier races<BR>Expansive Previews in better quality races today<BR>1 Bet chosen from 2 strangely similar options<BR><BR><BR>Today's Bet<BR><BR>Chelmsford 6.10<BR><BR>CURBYOURENTHUSIASM 5/2<BR><BR>Win Bet<BR><BR><BR><BR>I have changed the bet in the last half hour<BR>And gone for a win bet which is not as safe as I planned<BR><BR>My best bet today is Curbyourenthusiam<BR>But i wanted to bet him each way<BR>But I have no control over the market<BR>Evening race on the Sand he could be any price<BR><BR>So I nearly went with my second choice bet<BR>Wincanton 2.10 - NORTH HILL HARVEY 11/4 Each Way<BR>I spent half an hour chewing over this decision<BR><BR>These bets are spookily similar<BR>Both are 11/4 and each way bets<BR>Both are in races with just 6 runners<BR><BR>I nearly went with this bet<BR><BR>Wincanton 2.10 -NORTH HILL HARVEY 11/4<BR>Chelmsford 6.10 -CURBYOURENTHUSIASM 5/2<BR><BR>&pound;3 Win Bet on Each Horse<BR>&pound;2 Each Way Double on both<BR><BR>In the end I went for simplicity<BR>I have gone with a Win Bet<BR><BR>I could have chosen a safer route<BR>But lets just go for the win bet<BR><BR><BR><BR>Sunday<BR><BR>There will be a Sunday message<BR>There is a lot of very small fields though<BR>I will do something in the Cork National<BR>I will also cover the USA Presidential Election<BR>I have novelty bets at 4/1 and 8/1<BR>Predicting the Correct Score in this election<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>T o d a y s M e s s a g e<BR><BR>The 2 easiest races today start the message<BR>My choices are 5/4 and 7/4<BR>These are solid enough but not maximums<BR>Then we do battle in 7 much harder races<BR><BR><BR>There were just 2 possible bets<BR><BR>Wincanton 2.10<BR>Chelmsford 6.10<BR><BR><BR><BR>Aintree 2.05<BR><BR>&pound;4 Each Way KRUZHLININ 8/1<BR>&pound;2 Win Bet ENNISTOWN 4/1<BR>&pound;2 Win Bet YOUNG DILLON 6/1<BR><BR>I like the staking here<BR>We wont lose money if Kruzhlinin places<BR>Yet still have two other savers<BR>KRUZHLININ has one flaw<BR>I just don't know how fit he is<BR>But the price does compensate for that<BR><BR><BR><BR>Wincanton 2.10<BR><BR>NORTH HILL HARVEY 11/4<BR><BR>Each Way - 1/4 the Odds 1,2 places<BR><BR>Only 2 places in a 6 runner race<BR>My angles do offer some hope in this race<BR>Obviously it could be tactical<BR>I just feel we have a very good chance<BR><BR><BR><BR>Wincanton 3.20<BR><BR>&pound;2 Each Way SET LIST 20/1<BR>&pound;5 Win Bet FINGERONTHESWITCH 7/1<BR>&pound;1 Win Bet GENTLEMAN JON 12/1<BR><BR>The Badger Ales Trophy<BR>Should be interesting to watch<BR>Have I made a good enough case here ?<BR>Probably not but I am highlighting the race<BR>As there are big prices in a strangely staked race<BR><BR><BR><BR>Chelmsford 6.10<BR><BR>CURBYOURENTHUSIASM 5/2<BR><BR>Each Way<BR>1/4 The Odds 1,2<BR><BR>I love his chance on paper<BR>He has never let me down the times I opposed him<BR>I hope he won't now I want to bet him<BR>Very few similar races<BR>So unsafe to take a statistical approach<BR>But I think he should be good enough<BR><BR>Final Decision<BR><BR>CURBYOURENTHUSIASM<BR><BR>But as a win bet<BR><BR><BR>Daily Negatives<BR><BR>No Negative Today<BR>Results of Negatives<BR>27 correct bets from 38<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>P r o f i l e s & P r e v i e w s<BR><BR><BR><BR>K e l s o 12.35<BR><BR>11/8 Tree Of Liberty, 6/4 Another Bill, 7/1 Grays Choice<BR>10/1 Christmas In Usa, 14/1 Grey Storm, 33/1 Lansdowne Road<BR>33/1 Tiger Mountain, 66/1 Robins Legend, 100/1 Crookofdevon<BR>100/1 Elusive Classic.<BR><BR>Novice Hurdle over 2m 6f<BR>I am quite surprised by my angles here<BR>ANOTHER BILL is a 6yo<BR>He has won a Novice Hurdle recently<BR>Without knowing how similar horses got on<BR>I expected him to have a far better profile<BR>Than TREE OF LIBERTY a 4 year old<BR><BR>I looked at TREE OF LIBERTY's profile<BR>4 year old with 1 Bumper run<BR>Beaten in that race but not by more than 12 lengths<BR>Running within 5 weeks<BR>Starting under 20/1<BR>I was expecting to find a weak record<BR>Surprisingly I found a 6-15 record !!<BR>TREE OF LIBERTY is a surprise positive<BR>He is for sale at the moment which I don't like<BR>And I find it hard to commit to him<BR><BR>ANOTHER BILL has a smart 4-8 profile<BR>I have to go with him with winning hurdling form<BR>He now has a bigger danger than I expected<BR>But I am staying with winning hurdling form here<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>ANOTHER BILL 11/10<BR><BR>Win Bet<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>A i n t r e e 1.30<BR><BR>5/4 Wotzizname, 15/8 Definite Outcome<BR>5/2 Arpege D´alene.<BR><BR>This is a 3m 1f Novice Chase<BR>Only 3 runners all very talented<BR>Nothing I say here can sort this race<BR>One bad jump can throw it all up in the air<BR>I am going to take on WOTZIZNAME<BR>Whilst No Chasing experience is not a problem<BR>He is very lightly raced<BR>There are some holes in his hurdles form<BR>I just feel safer with DEFINITE OUTCOME<BR><BR>DEFINITE OUTCOME has 1 Chase run<BR>Racing Post Rating of 140<BR>Thats pretty reassuring<BR>When you consider the favourite hasn't jumped a fence yet<BR>He is a big strong type<BR>I ran DEFINITE OUTCOME's profile<BR>I found a W W CO F W record<BR>One horse Fell at the first years ago<BR>Another was carried out without any blame<BR>The other 3 like him all won<BR>It is the best profile in the race<BR><BR>ARPEGE D´ALENE finished last in that race<BR>But he was favourite so should be respected<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>DEFINITE OUTCOME 7/4<BR><BR>Win Bet<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>D o n c a s t e r 1.50<BR><BR>5/1 Albernathy, 9/1 George Bowen, 10/1 Withernsea<BR>11/1 Boy In The Bar, 11/1 God Willing, 11/1 Oh This Is Us<BR>12/1 Bertiewhittle, 12/1 Dinkum Diamond, 12/1 London Protocol<BR>12/1 Shady Mccoy, 12/1 That Is The Spirit, 14/1 Mount Tahan<BR>14/1 Right Touch, 16/1 Al Khan, 20/1 Cricklewood Green<BR>20/1 Flaming Spear, 20/1 Jack´s Revenge, 25/1 Highly Sprung<BR><BR>Class 2 handicap over 7f<BR>I have a traditional shortlist in this race<BR>Year after year the winners seems to be on there<BR>This year my angles produced this shortlist<BR><BR>OH THIS IS US - THAT IS THE SPIRIT - MOUNT TAHAN<BR>GOD WILLING - SHADY MCCOY - GEORGE BOWEN<BR><BR>There are 47 of these races in October and November<BR>Horses aged 7 or more are just 1-111<BR>Horses aged 8 or more are 0-36<BR>So I am taking out the following older horses<BR><BR>DINKUM DIAMOND - AL KHAN<BR>BERTIEWHITTLE - JACK´S REVENGE<BR>If we look at horses from 6f or shorter<BR>Those absent more than 4 weeks from 6f were 0-30<BR>FLAMING SPEAR fails this statistic<BR><BR>BOY IN THE BAR is 5 and up in distance<BR>Without a recent race I look elsewhere<BR><BR>I have looked at all the winners aged 3<BR>HIGHLY SPRUNG is far more exposed than all of them<BR>If I look at 3 year olds absent over a Month<BR>I find a 0-48 record in similar races<BR>LONDON PROTOCOL fails this and is rejected<BR>CRICKLEWOOD GREEN is biting too much off<BR>THAT IS THE SPIRIT was hammered last time<BR>Doesn't get the benefit of the doubt<BR>Horses from 8f races<BR>Absent more than 7 days<BR>When aged 5 or more are just 1-70<BR>DINKUM DIAMOND also fails this statistic<BR>GOD WILLING also fails it<BR><BR>RIGHT TOUCH will need a career best<BR>Best win off 95 and rated 100 today<BR>Too many on the shortlist to slip him on there<BR><BR>Shortlist<BR><BR>OH THIS IS US - Tough rating of 101 for a 3yo<BR><BR>ALBERNATHY - Scrapes in on the shortlist<BR><BR>GEORGE BOWEN - Profile fine<BR><BR>WITHERNSEA - Profile fine<BR><BR>MOUNT TAHAN has enough to shortlist<BR><BR>SHADY MCCOY - Like his profile down in trip<BR>Two winners aged 6 won with similar profiles<BR>May not have stayed a mile on last two runs<BR><BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>&pound;3 Each Way SHADY MCCOY 14/1<BR><BR>&pound;1 Win Bet GEORGE BOWEN 8/1<BR>&pound;1 Win Bet WITHERNSEA 12/1<BR>&pound;1 Win Bet ALBERNATHY 8/1<BR>&pound;1 Win Bet MOUNT TAHAN 16/1<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>A i n t r e e 2.05<BR><BR>4/1 Ennistown, 5/1 Young Dillon, 11/2 Shutthefrontdoor<BR>11/2 Unanimite, 6/1 Caid Du Berlais, 13/2 Kruzhlinin<BR>8/1 Holywell, 12/1 Goodbye Dancer, 16/1 The Tourard Man.<BR><BR>This is a Class 2 handicap hurdle over 3m<BR>There are 29 similar races at this time of year<BR><BR>If you look at Seasonal debutants<BR>Aged 8 or more<BR>Who have 11st or more weight<BR>You find a miserable 1-74 record<BR>The only winner was in a very small field<BR>HOLYWELL fails this profile<BR>SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR fails this profile<BR>Both from the same stable<BR>Both likely to have other plans in the spring<BR><BR>Horses Aged 5<BR>Have a 1-29 record in this race<BR>The only winner (Jorobaden 2005) won the week before<BR>Not a good race for 5 year olds<BR>Understandable as this is 3 miles and a Class 2 race<BR>This interested me<BR><BR>October November December<BR>3m Handicap Hurdles<BR>Class 3 or higher<BR>There are 191 of these races<BR><BR>Horses aged 5 did win some of these races<BR>But the only ones that did<BR>Had 12 or fewer hurdle runs<BR>Horses aged 5 with 13 + hurdle races were 0-13<BR>This tells me they are too exposed<BR>They don't have much if any improvement left<BR>Yet they meet older and stronger horses<BR>Either way no 5yo has won with 13 + Hurdle runs<BR>And that's over a 3 month period in 3 Classes<BR>GOODBYE DANCER is 5 and has this problem<BR>UNANIMITE is 5 and has this problem<BR>He only just fails that stat and is harder to rule out<BR>But he beat nothing last time<BR>He is not certain to stay this far in this class<BR>THE TOURARD MAN has 2 recent poor runs<BR>Difficult to see a tempting case for him<BR><BR>CAID DU BERLAIS is interesting<BR>Won the 2014 Paddy Power Gold Cup<BR>Had a year off through injury<BR>CAID DU BERLAIS has raced once this season<BR>That was over 2m 3f<BR>I can not make him a negative<BR>But his profile is not strong either<BR>And you have to wonder if he may need another run<BR>With several future targets over fences looming<BR><BR>Shortlist<BR><BR>ENNISTOWN - Last seem at Newmarket<BR>That was on the flat in the Cesarewitch<BR>That complicates his profile<BR>Makes him very hard to read<BR>More positives than negatives though<BR><BR>YOUNG DILLON - Came out like 1 winner<BR>I would want him on my side<BR>Especially with a decent recent race<BR><BR>KRUZHLININ is interesting<BR>This is a horse that wants small fields<BR>He has been Chasing for a while<BR>Mainly in big fields recently<BR>Just has not been suited to those races<BR>Rated 146 over fences<BR>Now running off 138 over hurdles in a small field<BR>His profile is unsafe<BR>We can't know how good he is now over hurdles<BR>No idea how fit he is either<BR>But he could easily win if retaining his ability<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>&pound;4 Each Way KRUZHLININ 8/1<BR><BR>&pound;2 Win Bet ENNISTOWN 4/1<BR><BR>&pound;2 Win Bet YOUNG DILLON 6/1<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>W i n c a n t o n 2.10<BR><BR>11/10 Sceau Royal, 3/1 North Hill Harvey,<BR>7/2 Zubayr 14/1 Rayvin Black<BR>16/1 Aristo Du Plessis 40/1 Peckhamecho.<BR><BR>Graded Handicap Hurdle over 2m<BR><BR>6 Runners<BR>3 horses dominate the market<BR>Sceau Royal is a 4yo<BR>Zubayr is a 4yo<BR>North Hill Harvey is a 5yo<BR><BR>Go back to Cheltenham last March<BR>SCEAU ROYAL was 12th in the Triumph Hurdle<BR>ZUBAYR was 13th in the Triumph Hurdle<BR>They were and still are 4 year olds<BR>They had Racing Post Ratings of 126 and 130 in that race<BR><BR>NORTH HILL HARVEY is older<BR>He ran 9th in the Supreme Novice Hurdle<BR>Far stronger race and a Racing Post Rating of 141<BR><BR>I am drawn more to NORTH HILL HARVEY<BR>Older horses could just be more suitable<BR>The issues with 4 year olds in this race is complicated<BR>They won this race in 2001 2002 2003 with top class 4yo's<BR>Since 2004 None have managed to win<BR><BR>Actually the 4 year old issue is not that complicated<BR>You have to divide horses aged 4 into 2 categories<BR>Those with under 7 hurdle runs<BR>Those with 7 or more hurdle runs<BR>Statistics show that the 4 year olds you want<BR>Are the Lightly raced 4 year olds<BR>Not the ones with 7 or more hurdle races<BR><BR>Handicap Hurdles<BR>Listed and Graded Class<BR>Any and every distance<BR><BR>Look at 4 year olds<BR>Who have 7 or more previous hurdle runs<BR><BR>In these races in July they are 0-5<BR>In these races in August they are 0-0<BR>In these races in September they are 0-4<BR>In these races in October they are 0-11<BR>In these races in November they are 0-41<BR>In these races in December they are 6-43<BR><BR>This tells us one thing<BR>4 year olds with 7 or more hurdle runs<BR>Do not win these races until December<BR>Those trying between July and November were 0-61<BR>SCEAU ROYAL has this problem<BR>He is a 4yo with 10 Hurdle runs<BR>If this statistic works out again<BR>Then SCEAU ROYAL is in trouble with this profile<BR><BR>These angles suggest ZUBAYR is the better 4yo<BR>But they have struggled in this race<BR>And NORTH HILL HARVEY looks the better age<BR><BR>The potential flaw in this analysis<BR>Is SCEAU ROYAL's last run<BR>Very impressive win<BR>Career best Racing Post Rating<BR>So maybe that needs to be given more importance<BR>But my angles prefer the 5 year old<BR>And I am going each way despite 7 runners<BR>NORTH HILL HARVEY gets weight from a 4yo<BR>He is reported as an easy horse to get fit<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>NORTH HILL HARVEY 11/4<BR><BR>Each Way<BR><BR>1/4 the Odds 1,2 places<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>D o n c a s t e r 2.25<BR><BR>11/8 Growl, 5/1 Absolutely So,<BR>11/1 Jack Dexter, 12/1 Dawaa 12/1 Kimberella,<BR>14/1 Aeolus, 14/1 Lady Macapa<BR>16/1 Dutch Destiny, 33/1 Burnt Sugar.<BR><BR>The Wentworth Stakes is a 6f Listed race<BR>There are 15 renewals of this race<BR>Horses from 7f or longer last time were 2-53<BR>Those aged under 6 were 0-36 doing this<BR>DAWAA fails this 0-36 record<BR>Those from 7f races in Class 2 or lower were 0-37<BR>DAWAA fails this as well<BR>KIMBERELLA and ABSOLUTELY SO do as well<BR>I am against DUTCH DESTINY<BR>Think she is too inexperienced<BR>LADY MACAPA is a 3yo filly<BR>None have won this race before<BR>She is coming up two Grades in Class as well<BR>JACK DEXTER won this last year on Heavy<BR>Don't see lightning striking twice on fast ground<BR>BURNT SUGAR - Numbers not good enough<BR>He comes from the worst trial race too<BR><BR>Shortlist<BR><BR>AEOLUS has some promise<BR>One of the few with some 6f form on Fast<BR>Much as they say he is better on soft<BR><BR>GROWL - 2nd in a Group 1 last time<BR>That was a Career best run by miles<BR>His best previous Racing Post Rating was 106<BR>At Ascot last time he recorded a massive 118<BR>That would win every past renewal if repeated<BR>It is miles clear than any other horse in the race<BR>If GROWL repeats that run he will win<BR>But you have to consider it may have been a fluke<BR>He was a 50/1 chance<BR>Some of his opponents failed to deliver<BR>It was miles better than anything he has ever done before<BR>That does make me a bit sceptical<BR>I think GROWL should be a saver<BR>I think we should buy him out of the race<BR>I can not trust that last performance<BR><BR>I am taking a chance on a big priced bet<BR>The reason is faster ground<BR><BR>Very Few of these<BR>Have raced over 6f on faster ground before<BR>At least not in the last 13 months<BR>Racing Post Ratings<BR>6f races<BR>Good to Firm or faster<BR><BR>111 Kimberella<BR>106 Growl<BR>104 Aeolus<BR><BR>KIMBERELLA has the best fast ground 6f number<BR>GROWL the second best<BR>So I will hope this is the best approach<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>&pound;6 Win Bet KIMBERELLA 10/1<BR><BR>&pound;4 Saver Bet GROWL 11/8<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>W i n c a n t o n 3.20<BR><BR>3/1 Southfield Theatre, 4/1 Present Man, 5/1 The Young Master<BR>8/1 Fingerontheswitch, 9/1 Carole´s Destrier, 10/1 Gentleman Jon<BR>12/1 Cocktails At Dawn, 14/1 Ziga Boy, 16/1 Roc D´apsis<BR>16/1 Set List, 25/1 Bob Tucker.<BR><BR>The Badger Ales Trophy is a 3m 1f Handicap Chase<BR>I am going to oppose 8yo seasonal debutants<BR>Based on some interesting early season angles<BR><BR>October November December<BR>Handicap Chases<BR>2m 5f or more<BR>Listed and Graded races<BR>There are 135 of these races since 2002<BR><BR>If you look at 8yo seasonal debutants<BR>They have a 4-119 record since 2002<BR>The 4 winners that did it were years ago<BR>They mostly had very light weights as well<BR><BR>Look at 8yo seasonal debutants since 2007<BR>In all similar races they have a 0-69 record<BR>Look at 8yo seasonal debutants with 10st 6lbs +<BR>In all similar races there was a 1-84 record<BR><BR>I hope this is a significant angle<BR>These are prestigious races in these 3 months<BR>Full of High class prospects<BR>Cheltenham and Aintree Festival players<BR>No real surprise 8yo debutants have struggled<BR>The younger horses aged 7 have more improvement<BR>And the 8 year olds that bump into them<BR>Probably have not fulfilled their promise when 7 year olds<BR>As if they had then they would not be in Handicaps<BR>No 8yo debutant has won the Hennessy in decades<BR>None have won the Paddy Power Gold Cup<BR>None have won this race in 10 years<BR>None the Becher Chase or any of these autumn races<BR>So I am going to oppose them in this race<BR>Horses aged 8 hardly score well in this race anyway<BR>They are only 1-49 in the last 15 renewals<BR><BR>8yo Debutants 0-69 since 2007<BR>8yo Debutants 1-84 with 10st 6lbs +<BR>The following 8yo debutants are rejected<BR><BR>COCKTAILS AT DAWN<BR>CAROLE´S DESTRIER<BR>SOUTHFIELD THEATRE<BR><BR>These 3 horses are rated 147 148 150<BR>15 past renewals of this race<BR>None were won by a horse rated higher than 145<BR>So I feel they have a tough enough task anyway<BR><BR>THE YOUNG MASTER is rated 150<BR>We know no past winner won rated more than 145<BR>THE YOUNG MASTER is a 7yo seasonal debutant<BR>Seasonal debutants aged 7 are fine<BR>But these all had 9 or fewer previous Chase starts<BR>THE YOUNG MASTER has now had 10 runs<BR>Not a big issue but not a match to a winner<BR>And the rating of 150 hurts his profile as well<BR>ZIGA BOY is a 7yo seasonal debutant<BR>18 Chase runs is too much for me though<BR>He would be the most exposed 7yo debutant<BR>This looks a prep race for something else<BR>BOB TUCKER looks unsafe<BR>Hard to see him winning on recent form<BR><BR>PRESENT MAN is a 6 year old<BR>Horses aged 6 do score well<BR>But I do have some problems with him<BR>PRESENT MAN comes from a 2m 4f race<BR>Every other horse comes from 3m or more<BR>So he is the only horse going up in distance<BR>If you look at past renewals<BR>Horses that came from 2m 6f or shorter were 0-32<BR>PRESENT MAN fails that 0-32 record<BR>This race has never rewarded trip jumpers<BR>And 14 of the 15 winners had more Chase runs<BR>I can't bet PRESENT MAN with this profile<BR><BR>ROC D´APSIS was hammered on his seasonal debut<BR>I needed more from him<BR>His last 3 runs worry me all over 3m<BR>As he did not prove he can stay<BR>That worries me as his sire has no 3m + winners<BR>The only sire in the race yet to achieve that<BR><BR>Shortlist<BR><BR>GENTLEMAN JON won recently<BR>8 year olds are 1-49 in this race<BR>Not been a good race so far for his age group<BR>He does come here fit and in form though<BR>It may only have been a 4 horse race he won<BR>But it was a career best Racing Post Rating<BR>He has a 3-7 record on this track<BR>So I would not rule him out<BR>He has a bit to prove on breeding stats though<BR>If you look at his sire Beat All<BR>His Hurdle and Chase runners<BR>Those that raced in Listed or Graded races are 0-19<BR>His Sire has yet to get a National Hunt winner in this class<BR>If you just look at the sires Chasers<BR>They are 0-22 in Class 2 of higher<BR>GENTLEMAN JON will need a career best<BR>And to set a higher standard than any by his sire have done<BR><BR>FINGERONTHESWITCH is a 6 year old<BR>Horses aged 6 are fine in these races<BR>The problem is none had under 4 Chase runs<BR>FINGERONTHESWITCH only has 3 runs<BR>And he fell in one of those<BR>I can find a 6yo with 4 Chase starts<BR>Who won the Welsh Grand National<BR>I can find a Hennessy winner (Strong Flow)<BR>Who was 6 and had 4 Chase starts<BR>None though had only 3 which concerns me<BR>Then again he has had Point to Point runs<BR>He does look progressive<BR>Will like the ground<BR>And if you ignore his Cheltenham form<BR>He looks even more progressive and consistent<BR>My main worry is inexperience and a last time Fall<BR><BR>SET LIST is a lightly raced Chaser<BR>Plenty of positives in his profile<BR>Slight concern he lacks a bit of backclass<BR>He has never raced beyond a Class 3 race yet<BR>But he comes here after a career best run<BR>His last time out Racing Post Rating was his best<BR>I think he is good value at 16/1 +<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>&pound;2 Each Way SET LIST 20/1<BR><BR>&pound;5 Win Bet FINGERONTHESWITCH 7/1<BR><BR>&pound;1 Win Bet GENTLEMAN JON 12/1<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>D o n c a s t e r 3.35<BR><BR>6/1 Cape Cova, 7/1 Wrangler, 12/1 Erik The Red<BR>12/1 Prize Money, 12/1 Soldier In Action,<BR>14/1 Litigant, 14/1 Qassem, 14/1 Tawdeea, 16/1 Montaly<BR>20/1 Buonarroti, 20/1 Dashing Star 20/1 William Hunter,<BR>25/1 Fattsota, 25/1 Green Light, 25/1 Mirsaale<BR>25/1 Trendsetter, 33/1 Mistiroc, 33/1 Mukhayyam<BR>33/1 Sir Chauvelin.<BR><BR>I sent detailed analysis for this yesterday<BR>No point in sending it again<BR>I got to the shortlist stage<BR>Now the task is to try and pick the winner<BR><BR>Shortlist<BR><BR>MONTALY<BR>NOT SO SLEEPY<BR>PRIZE MONEY<BR>CAPE COVA<BR>TAWDEEA<BR><BR>NOT SO SLEEPY is a non runner<BR>MONTALY rejected on the ground<BR><BR>I am drafting in WILLIAM HUNTER<BR>He was a Positive I didn't shortlist yesterday<BR>I think he does have a chance of taking this<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>&pound;5 Win Bet WILLIAM HUNTER 16/1<BR><BR>&pound;2 Win Bet CAPE COVA 5/1<BR><BR>&pound;2 Win Bet PRIZE MONEY 12/1<BR><BR>&pound;1 Win Bet TAWDEEA 20/1<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>C h e l m s f o r d 6.10<BR><BR>9/4 Winning Story, 100/30 Haines<BR>9/2 Curbyourenthusiasm, 5/1 Watersmeet<BR>11/2 Great Hall, 25/1 Rideonastar.<BR><BR>This is a 1m 6f Handicap<BR>Class 2 race<BR>Very few similar races at this time of year<BR>I will start with some numbers<BR><BR>Racing Post Ratings<BR>1m 6f races<BR><BR>114 Curbyourenthusiasm<BR>107 Curbyourenthusiasm<BR>104 Great Hall<BR>97 Great Hall<BR>95 Great Hall<BR><BR><BR>CURBYOURENTHUSIASM stands out<BR>He has a big edge on the above numbers<BR>I am quite drawn to him over this distance<BR>Having been opposing him for a few runs<BR><BR>His Sire is Mastercraftsman<BR>This sire has not yet had a 2m winner in Class 2 or higher<BR>His last 3 runs have been 2m or more in Group 2 races<BR>Not Bred to stay in any of those races<BR>I opposed him in all of them<BR><BR>Before that he won a Class 2 Handicap<BR>And was second in a Yorkshire Cup<BR>CURBYOURENTHUSIASM is the class horse<BR>He is now back over his ideal range<BR><BR>Quite how his profile works I don't know<BR>Not enough similar races to understand it<BR>To know if the 57 day break is helpful or not<BR>Or how the profiles of other horses work<BR>That is the price we are going to have to pay<BR><BR>WINNING STORY only has 2 career runs<BR>I looked at all similar races all year round<BR>Run over 1m 3f or more<BR>Very few winners had just 2 runs<BR>None that did had an absence as well<BR>He may win but he has to be unsafe<BR><BR>I see others as unsafe as well<BR>GREAT HALL comes from 10f to 14f<BR>Thats a 4f jump in trip only 7 days since his last run<BR>I think he is beatable<BR><BR>RIDEONASTAR is out of form<BR>Hard to see him having the class anyway<BR><BR>WATERSMEET has a chance<BR>He comes from 10f and has limited 14f form<BR>The way I look at his profile<BR>Is he has the talent to be a saver<BR>But we just don't know how he will run<BR>Has he had enough for the year<BR>He's been on the go since February<BR>Hammered last time at 50/1<BR>But he did win before that<BR>A saver could be sensible<BR><BR>HAINES drops down half a Mile<BR>I don't have a big problem with his profile<BR>I am conscious that in 25 career starts<BR>His career best Racing Post Rating was 96<BR>Several others have far bigger numbers<BR>But he does get weight which will compensate<BR><BR>I like CURBYOURENTHUSIASM<BR>I see him as the class horse<BR>He is only allowed to run in this race<BR>As his rating has come down from 111 to 109 to 107 to 105<BR>Courtesy of defeats in races he was not bred to stay<BR>I hope that his class will show over his best distance<BR><BR>Selection<BR><BR>CURBYOURENTHUSIASM 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